Complex or Complicated?

The recent Think and a Drink (@TaaD) covered the wide ranging topic of Social Networking. There was much to take in and some genuinely useful tips and tricks for ‘upping’ your game with regards to social networking from an internet perspective.

However, one presentation tried to tackle the immensely challenging science of networking and attempted to explain the academic difference between complex and complicated.  Whilst the explanation of ‘complicated’ was good, ‘complex’ was almost just left as being ‘not like complicated’  – the explanation didn’t really explore the concept due, most likely, to a lack of time.  I’m going to try to touch on it here.

(Update:  This is about complexity theory, rather than the normal English use of the words.  Sorry for any confusion!)

Complicated was described using the Boeing 747 example.  This one often pops up in popular literature as being an example of something that has a huge number of parts that fit together in a staggeringly intricate way.  View a plane as a whole you don’t see the myriad parts of the engine for example.  “Wow, that looks complex!” you might exclaim.  Well, no, it looks complicated.  You could, with sufficient time, completely dissasemble a 747 and lay out all of the constituent part.  You also could understand the purpose and of each and every part and how they fit together.  With time, there would be no mystery why the engine’s fan blade is shaped a particular way.

Complex on the other hand, describes an entirely different set of phenomena.  The Boeing 747 is an example of a complicated system, where system is used to describe a set of components which together achieve a purpose.  The trouble with analysing complex systems is that looking at the parts tells you almost nothing about the system.  That is, you have to look at the interactions and feedback between the parts and the emergent behaviour that the interactions and feedback bring about.

It is probably easier to take a few examples.  Birds flocking and termite colonies are examples complex systems as are organisations and society.

Birds flocking is a bit of a classic and programs have been written to simulate it.  Each agent (or ‘bird’) only has a small set of behavioral characteristics or rules when flocking and completely analysing a bird does not give an inkling of the beauty of the motion that a flock of birds draws in the sky.  The behaviour of the flock emerges from the interactions of the whole and, critically, cannot be predicted by looking separately at the behaviour of each of the birds.

Termites are interesting in that they are quite simple and can be examined from a physical and biological perspective of the individual termite.  However, again, their social functions and mound building can only be studied at the level of the colony the social behaviours only emerge from the non-linear interactions and feedback between the termites which is one of the features of a complex system.

When humans are part of a system, each agent can make their own decisions and they will only do that based on their own partial perspectives of their own understanding of the system.  Hence society and politics.

So complex systems are non linear, involve feedback loops and resist reductive analysis; they can only be analysed at the macro level where the behaviour of the system emerges from it parts.

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2 Responses to Complex or Complicated?

  1. david coxon says:

    Unfortunately i missed the codeworks think and a drink session. Your post is a really interesting one and your argued your case very well. I was recently considering writing something on ‘what is clever’ which required very similar discussion.

    Both complex and complicated come form the same word stem which generally means many different connected parts, however as i understand it complicate means make more complex therefore complicated simply means something which has many different interconnected parts which has bean made more so.

    Complex generally refers to physical atributes (including behaviour) but complicated can refer to both physical and imaginary, so a situation can be made more complex by rumours or beliefs.

    An example would be you can have complex relationships, ie lots of family members taken back 10 gererations can create a very complex family tree, but a complicated relationship, could involve a complex family structure made more complicated by extra parital relationship and family fued that prevent one side of a family talking to another (something that your previous example doesn’t factor into its explanation and that could not be found by examining the parts)

    back over to you….
    oh my explanation comes in part from the consise oxford english dictionary, couldn’t quite but my finger on the difference without looking both words up.

  2. alex says:

    The family tree example you give is only complicated. i.e. even though there are 10 generations creating a complicated family tree it will still be possible to examine each and every family member’s relationship and understand it and its context within the family tree. There is no emergent behaviour from the family tree, to in that sense it is similar to the 747 example; very complicated, but not complex.

    However, in the same family there might be 3 or 4 generations still living. Whilst the structure of the family tree is complicated, the behaviour of the members of the family would almost certainly be complex. i.e. the behaviour of the members of the family as a system emerges as a consequence of their interactions.

    Looking at any single member and their direct relationships or even individual behaviour would not provide sufficient information or analysis to understand the behaviour of the family system as a whole. To study the whole family you have to study it at a system level and not at an individual member level. In this case, it is even more complex because no single member can have a full perspective and understanding of the family system as a whole. Each brings their own experience, prejudices, partial perspectives and motivations to the mix resulting in behaviours that only emerge due to the interactions between the family members.

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